RockPopandRoll
A look at music that was rock, pop, and radio of the 1980's, with takes on the greatest, the worst, the underappreciated, and the burned. It's a deep dive into the retro greatness of the decade, at the intersection where rock music, pop music, power pop, guitars, drums, memorable tunes, and guilty pleasures come together. Longtime radio rock DJ and music writer Rob Nichols hosts, along with his artist and writer friends, to dig into the music.
Episodes
Monday Jul 25, 2022
Ep. 30: Mixing Prince and Heartland Rock and Roll in Minnesota
Monday Jul 25, 2022
Monday Jul 25, 2022
This particular podcast episode found its inspiration in one of the Spotify-exclusive Rock Pop and Roll Radio Shows that we've made. They live on Spotify and were created to give me a chance to make an old-school radio show. Listen for 90 minutes to one and hear stories plus the whole song, something we don't do on the podcast. A callback to the great radio of the 70's and 80's.
I was working on a podcast about Minneapolis roots rock/heartland rock bands and how they were oddly influential in the 1980's musical landscape. Then I remembered this Prince Spotify radio show I produced and thought - hey - this is part of the story. How Prince - who music listeners know is from Minnesota - and a bunch of white kids with guitars could exist and, in a sense, inspire each other.
Prince was a mashup of what he heard growing up. That was his secret to crossover success. Filmmaker Philip Priestley, who made a 2008 documentary comparing the careers of Prince and Michael Jackson, said that growing up in Minneapolis helped Prince to create a new sound. "He grew up listening to a lot of radio which was other stuff than black soul music and rhythm and blues," Priestley said. “He was listening to rock -- white rock -- which explains why he was so unique musically. "He fused a black American tradition -- rhythm and blues, soul, funk, jazz -- with white rock."
That's what we peel back here, trying to figure out the connection between it all.
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Sunday Jun 12, 2022
Ep. 29: The Greatness of Joan Jett and Why She Rocks Us
Sunday Jun 12, 2022
Sunday Jun 12, 2022
Take a minute to think about Joan Jett. More than one song. More than just "I Love Rock and Roll", as great as that radio song is. She's called “The Queen of Rock ‘n’ Roll” and “The Godmother of Punk.”
Let's think about the rock and roll in her catalog and the influences she ultimately passed along. In the podcast, we talk about her career and how - somehow - she's may even be a bit undervalued as one of the rock and roll greats.
Jett's self-titled solo debut was released in Europe in 1980. In the US, the is that after the album was rejected by 23 major labels, so Jett and and manager Kenny Laguna formed Blackheart Records and released it independently - started with Laguna's daughter's college savings - sometimes selling the albums out of the trunk of Laguna's car after a show. They eventually made a deal with Casablanca Records head Neil Bogart, and he signed Jett to his new label, Boardwalk Records and re-released the Joan Jett album as Bad Reputation.
That statement and that song - what Joan Jett sang about - "I don't give a damn about…" was what she became. That’s the image she made real. It is her brand. It cements her place as an integral part of the melding of punk rock and rock and roll.
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Tuesday Apr 12, 2022
Tuesday Apr 12, 2022
The continuing story of the the echoing Influence of Tom Petty...and how Mike Campbell has taken that influence and made some magic.
I hear lots of bands than dig for that bit of Petty magic within their sound. The Wild Feathers. American Aquarium. Turnpike Troubadours. Eddie Vedder. Cody Canada. Band of Heathens. Petty left us too early. His influence has stayed. I thought it would but you never know. Some artists just have louder echoes. And now, Heartbeakers guitarist and his band, Mike Campbell and the Dirty Knobs, have an album out - released in early 2022 called External Combustion. Petty fans should rejoice. It rocks, in a Petty and the Heartbreakers way. A good way - with the echoes of the sounds of Torpedoes and Wildflowers.
People hear the Petty songs and think they're basic. Why? Hell, Petty songs and singles were on the radio in a time when radio was king and queen and prince. They got your soul, one hit at a time. When I go to the radio or a Spotify playlist that a fragment of melody, line of lyrics, or chord change that will be a line back to something from Petty - his influence - from a generation of rock and pop stars that were raised on his music.
Mike Campbell and the Dirty Knobs. They have a second album. It’s pretty damn good. Mike has found his voice. It is the voice that helped blend with Tom’s voice for 40 years and it is evident that he was a huge piece of that sound, and the two growing up and writing songs for all those years gave each a part of each other’s musical soul. On External Combustion - his voice is stronger. Crisper. Tweaked a tiny bit higher in the mix. It works.
We listen to Petty's influence in the album, and with other music too. It's a good sound. A sound that deserves to live on.
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Eddie Vedder interview with Bruce Springsteen - https://youtu.be/PhqKCQXI8s0
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Sunday Mar 27, 2022
Ep. 27: Taylor Hawkins and the Foo Fighters - Only Rock and Roll?
Sunday Mar 27, 2022
Sunday Mar 27, 2022
On the weekend we recorded this, Foo Fighters drummer Taylor Hawkins died. He was 50.
People are fans. We aren’t friends. If it feels awful or heart wrenching to fans, know his friends feel it harder and bigger and sadder.
I'm a superfan of what the Foo Fighters represent. The fervor of how they play rock and roll. The satisfaction and pride they seem to feel when they are doing what they do. The Spirit of the Foo Fighters. What he brought to them. The fun. The wow. The fanboy love of rock and roll, played in the pocket and as the engine to the band.
They’ve played all the Queen covers and Rush covers and all the covers tackled from all the bands. The Foos love music and are students of the hazy 70s and rock and pop MTV 80s. They remember where they were when the rock and roll hit the radio the first time. It would come out in a show.
The spirit of the Foo Fighters. It’s different now. Even though they say it’s only rock and roll, it’s not.
We remember a bit of the spirit of Taylor Hawkins and what he brought to the band.
Foo Fighters final show with Taylor Hawkins / Argentina / watch
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Tuesday Mar 22, 2022
Ep. 26: Georgia Satellites - The Loud Crunch of Lost Rock and Roll
Tuesday Mar 22, 2022
Tuesday Mar 22, 2022
Georgia Satellites are owners of one fluke hit from their self-titled debut album - a Chuck Berry-ish throwback-for-the-80s radio. One song amidst their bucket of barroom rockers. Those songs don’t come around Top 40 too often anymore. The “Once Bitten, Twice Shy” or “Jealous Again” type of songs are outliers. So is "Keep Your Hands to Yourself". It rocketed all the way to #2 on the top 40 singles chart in early 1987. Bon Jovi kept them out of the top spot with "Livin' on a Prayer".
And why do I still think about the band? They really weren't anything new. But they did put together a flash of a career - though the band name lives on with guitarist Rick Richards - with some of the best dueling guitars of the 1980's. Again, we go back to the bar band label. It was an easy label to paste on them – to call the band an 80’s version of the great 70s rockers, The Faces. Hell, they even covered "Every Picture Tells a Story".
They played rock and roll that was a blast of scraping guitars, big drums and a vibe that bridged the decades before the Black Crowes would make a similar move around 1990. The Crowes ended up making a career last - off and on – for 25 years. For the Georgia Satellites? They opened on a couple big tours, played a whole lot of bars and then splintered right around 1990.
What is their legacy? Why a podcast about a retro band than was not around long enough to have a second big hit? That's what we dive into. How the Georgia Satellites predated country radio rock that would come just a bit after their time, and end up as an influence for lots of bands - or at least make those bands believe there was a path to a crunching rock and roll career. Bands like Cross Canadian Ragweed. The Bottle Rockets. Blackberry Smoke. Singer Dan Baird went on to a solo career and formed a couple really good bands, including Dan Baird and Homemade Sin.
One of their best tours was a triple bill in 1987 with Del Fuegos and Tom Petty. They also opened for Bob Seger in 1986 on his American Storm Tour for their first time on arena stage. Dan Baird has said that Bob made sure they had full house lights, house sound, everything the headliner would get. He knew what an opener needed. He was one for years.
Rolling Stone contributing editor Anthony DeCurtis talks about living in Atlanta in the early 1980s, “The Satellites were like the city's house band.” They made it into America's consciousness, at least for one song and a few years more for fans of the band. They brought it live. Loud. Righteous. I say worth remembering one more time.
They have a new - recorded in 1988 - live album out now that gives us a taste of what made them so good. Lightnin' In A Bottle. Seems like a good time now to rewind and salute a band that was better than they ever got credit for. Of course, if you saw them live, you knew.
I did, and I do.
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Monday Feb 21, 2022
Ep. 25: Huey Lewis and The News - After the 80’s
Monday Feb 21, 2022
Monday Feb 21, 2022
Huey Lewis and the News were a bar band that was better than a bar band. That’s such a lazy way to describe a band anyway. A bar band is a good thing anyway, right? That means they cut their chops live and can make a crowd - big or small - happy. Lewis and the band just happened to have the songs, the performance chops, and the talent to take that bar band moniker and make it huge.
There’s a long history of bar bands who had some fame and a hit or three and have a bit of a legacy. The J. Geils Band comes to mind. Southside Johnny and the Jukes. Georgia Satellites. John Cafferty. I might say the greatest bar bands of all time may be Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and Springsteen with the E St. Band. So there is no shame there. Lewis and the News where a glossier,-pop-leaning bar band than who had nine top 10 hits over the space of about four years. Later in their career, they turned deeper to soul and Stax and to a version a band leaning into a bit of R&B later in their career, to pretty good results.
After that glorious run from about 1982 through 1987, they began that journey, beginning with Small World album. Though it reached #11 on the album chart -and the song "Perfect World" went to #3 on Hot 100, the white-hot radio magic was on it's way out for the band.
What happened after the 80’s to Huey Lewis and the News? They continued to release albums. They continued to play live. Hard at Play was the first of those post-80's albums to be released. Though they weren't burning at the levels of the mid 80's any longer, the record produced two top 40 singles with "Couple Days Off" and "It Hit Me Like a Hammer". What came after these? How did they age? What is worth hearing hat we might have missed. That's the podcast. Dig in.
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Thursday Dec 23, 2021
Ep. 24: Jackson Browne and the 80’s - Rating his Singles and his Decade
Thursday Dec 23, 2021
Thursday Dec 23, 2021
Let's do a little Jackson Browne history: Browne wrote several songs for Nitty Gritty Dirt Band early on - he was briefly a member in 1966 before they were signed. He co-wrote the first Billboard Top 40 hit for the Eagles in 1972 with "Take It Easy". Browne released his debut album in 1972, which had one Top 40 hit, "Doctor, My Eyes" (#8) and another that should have been "Rock Me on the Water" (#48)
With his third album, Late for the Sky, he reached number 14 on the Billboard 200 album chart, and earned a Grammy nomination for Album of the Year. It was his fourth album, The Pretender – produced by Jon Landau - that cracked the top 5 on the album chart with singles "Here Come Those Tears Again" (#23) and "The Pretender" (an FM radio hit). By the time he got to the 1980's, he was ready for some radio hits and some MTV love.
Browne was one of the singer songwriters that bridged the late 60s/early 70 socially conscious singer songwriter with the days of AOR and guitars, loud drums and the rock and roll that ruled a lot of radio in the 80s. His 70s output is underrated and the classic rock stations of today only skim the same few, forgetting a lot of his catalog.
Jackson is one of those musicians who we take for granted a bit, and maybe dismiss when his thoughts, actions, and causes don’t match up politically and socially with with our own. But that doesn’t make him any less great. He is a rock guy who makes an effort to be an artist. And has done it for more than 50 years. Followed his heart. His beliefs. His art. Jackson Browne is important in the telling the story of rock’s history. We talk about his 70s output, what happened in the 90s and beyond, but focus this podcast on Jackson Browne in the 1980's, his golden years of getting played on the radio.
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Friday Nov 05, 2021
Ep. 23: Power Pop and Why it Still Rocks
Friday Nov 05, 2021
Friday Nov 05, 2021
With this episode, we're cranking the power pop sound. A lot of bands fit this genre so the episode is a teaser – a primer if you will. Not everything that ever happened, but a taste of that sound. Some history, some not-so-talked about bands, and the roar of guitars bashing, sugared harmonies, and cracking drums.
We dive into some rocking rabbit holes to talk about bands and artists, and hear throwbacks to the sounds of many, including Marshall Crenshaw, Rockpile, Phil Seymour, and Donnie Iris.
Cheap Trick may be the biggest of the genre, still doing their thing, playing "Surrender" and their great catalog live. The Raspberries had “Go All The Way” and are widely thought of as early power pop heroes. Matthew Sweet did the sound better than almost anyone in the 90s. It is a sound that I still love. So let's go. Turn it up.
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Tuesday Sep 21, 2021
Ep. 22: The Case for U2: The Biggest and Best Band of the 1980s?
Tuesday Sep 21, 2021
Tuesday Sep 21, 2021
Who was the best and biggest and most consistent rock band of the 1980s? That’s a question that was banging around my head. I have a winner. And you aren’t going to like it. Or maybe you will.
I was thinking about who truly, really was the kings of rock and roll bands of the 1980s and I can’t say no to U2. Springsteen and the E St. Band Right are up there, but The River was 1979. Then it was Nebraska. So Bruce is really one band album in the decade. Petty? Always solid. Prince? I mean, he had 1999 and Purple Rain back to back. Bon Jovi? Def Leppard? We can talk about it. I mean, there were a lot of contenders. Journey? Queen? Late decade Guns and Roses. Van Halen? The Police? That’s a lot of great rock and roll.
And why is there a distaste that persists for U2? People like to throw stones at Bono. he is earnest above all. The band is so non-ironic, that it scares some people. They reinvent. They tour stadiums and do it well. Some still hate on them. Well, screw them. I’m onboard and I will tell you why.
LINKS:
U2 Live 1983 US Festival
U2 Live in Dortmund 1984
U2 at Live Aid 1985
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Saturday Jul 17, 2021
Ep. 21: The Curious Case of The Romantics
Saturday Jul 17, 2021
Saturday Jul 17, 2021
It is the curious case of The Romantics. Detroit rockers worth another listen. 60s garage rock. Pop punk. Ear worms for those who like hard candy. Detroit attitude.
The group's debut was a 1978 single "Little White Lies on Spider Records, followed that year by the Bomp! single "Tell It to Carrie".
Here's what you know for sure about the Romantics: "What I Like About You”.
Would seem like a strong start, right? But the song wasn’t a hit when they released it. Sort of, but not really. #49 on the Hot 100 – didn’t crack the top 40. So they slogged along until the one golden, overlooked-in-rock history album.
They are remembered for a relatively minor hit that everyone who has heard a radio, been to an athletic event, or watched TV knows. Everyone can sing it. "Hey."
Fluke.
But the In Heat album was real. Sounded great, had terrific energy and hit the pop rock button during just the right time. And radio made those songs sound even better.
Then they went poof. Gone. Faded. But never completely burned away to ash. hey played tiny, out of the way joints to stay alive. They came out on the other side.
These are the Romantics and what you should hear.
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